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when mitt romney beat president obama in last night's televised debate. so the first televised presidential debate that we had was in 1960. here are all of the other years that we have since have televised presidential debates. every four years now we have these debates on tv. the only years, though, so these are all the years, right, right? the only years, though, in which you had an incumbent president running against a challenger in all of the years we've had presidential debates on tv are these years. so in terms of understanding the historical context of what happened last night when mitt romney beat president obama in this first debate, this is the universe of like things to compare it to. this is how to understand it in terms of american political history. it's only these years right here. that's it. now, by definition, you never have an incumbent president in this situation more than once. presidents can only serve two terms so there's only one opportunity when they carry into that debate, when they're running for re-election, they carry into that
when mitt romney beat president obama in last night's televised debate. so the first televised presidential debate that we had was in 1960. here are all of the other years that we have since have televised presidential debates. every four years now we have these debates on tv. the only years, though, so these are all the years, right, right? the only years, though, in which you had an incumbent president running against a challenger in all of the years we've had presidential debates on tv are...
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romney did his debate prep in denver. when you go to 5,000 feet and you only have a few hours to adjust -- >> that's interesting. >> -- i don't know maybe this is it. >> all right. maybe the altitude. >> what's that? >> i was saying maybe the altitude. al gore was being lighthearted when he was saying maybe that was the challenge, the altitude. >> maybe the altitude is what affected mitt romney's memory. maybe that was the impact on the debate. >> you win the gold. >> it is lighthearted. >> you win the gold. >> it is light hearted. >> stephanie, always great to see you. i appreciate your time. >>> "out front" next we break down mitt romney's key line of the night. it came when he talked about his tax plan. does it add up or not? u.s. special forces are on the ground, collecting intelligence in libya. we have a report from benghazi, coming up. >>> and live report from facebook revealed by mark zuckerberg. ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's dream... ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or ma
romney did his debate prep in denver. when you go to 5,000 feet and you only have a few hours to adjust -- >> that's interesting. >> -- i don't know maybe this is it. >> all right. maybe the altitude. >> what's that? >> i was saying maybe the altitude. al gore was being lighthearted when he was saying maybe that was the challenge, the altitude. >> maybe the altitude is what affected mitt romney's memory. maybe that was the impact on the debate. >> you...
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romney debated well. and may be on his way to the white house if that continues. finally i made this prediction last night. >> mitt romney will wish the first couple a happy anniversary. one of the first things he does. >> congratulations to you, mr. president, on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most romantic place you could imagine here with me. [ laughter ] so congratulations. >> bill: way to go, governor. keep watching the factor. and that's the memo. now for the rest of the program this evening. we're going to analyze what happened last night in a no-spin way. charles krauthammer is next followed by bob beckel. megyn kelly and laura ingraham. the factor will return after these announcements. >> bill: continuing now with our lead story, assessing the presidential debate last night. as we mentioned the consensus is that mitt romney deteethed barack obama. and today mr. obama under his energy a bit. >> so you see the man on stage last night, he does not want to be held accountable for the real mi
romney debated well. and may be on his way to the white house if that continues. finally i made this prediction last night. >> mitt romney will wish the first couple a happy anniversary. one of the first things he does. >> congratulations to you, mr. president, on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most romantic place you could imagine here with me. [ laughter ] so congratulations. >> bill: way to go, governor. keep watching the factor. and that's the memo. now for the...
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today just a few hours before the debate started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when you go to 5,000 feet, and you only have a few hours to adjust-- >> cenk: was that attack--there are a million things that went wrong. that's not why president obama lost over all but was that a mistake to go that late into denver. >> people do get altitude sickness, even sometimes at a mile high, but i think it was reflective of a bigger problem. president obama was being the president. he doesn't have to spend an entire day or day in denver. 's the president. if you watched him last night that's what he behaved like. a guy who for four years has gone unchallenged at least in the same room with anyone. his demeanor, his answers from exactly what you saw during presidential press conference over the last few years. that's the way he responded to romney, to whom he barely acknowledged. he was acting like this was just you know, something that he didn't have to deign to do. that was a huge mistake. it will be a wake-up call to him. it's very much like to me what happened in 2004 whe
today just a few hours before the debate started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when you go to 5,000 feet, and you only have a few hours to adjust-- >> cenk: was that attack--there are a million things that went wrong. that's not why president obama lost over all but was that a mistake to go that late into denver. >> people do get altitude sickness, even sometimes at a mile high, but i think it was reflective of a bigger problem. president obama was being the president. he...
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romney actually have two debates remaining. one on october 16th on long island, and the last one six days later in florida. there's also one vice presidential debate a week from tonight in kentucky. derek. >> we'll be watching them all. cbs news has learned that investigators are looking into the possibility that a border patrol agent killed earlier this week died from friendly fire. nicholas ivie and two other agents came under attack just north of the border near birkz sbee, arizona. this word comes from mexican police as they've arrested two people. >>> d.c. police confirm they're investigating allegations that a guard sexually assaulted an inmate. sources tell wtop radio the allegations are that a guard removed an inmate from his cell, took him to an area where there are no security cameras and assaulted him. those sources also say a second guard witnessed the assault but did not report it. >>> tonight we've got a sketch of the man wanted for fondling at least five women in springfield. take a good look. the most recent att
romney actually have two debates remaining. one on october 16th on long island, and the last one six days later in florida. there's also one vice presidential debate a week from tonight in kentucky. derek. >> we'll be watching them all. cbs news has learned that investigators are looking into the possibility that a border patrol agent killed earlier this week died from friendly fire. nicholas ivie and two other agents came under attack just north of the border near birkz sbee, arizona....
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just a few hours before the debate started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when you go to 5,000 feet. >> exactly. >> and you only have a few hours to adjust. >> that's interesting. >> i don't know. >> that just happened. that was al gore on current tv wednesday explaining the president's poor debate performance. what's your best excuse for the president? what do you make of that? quickly, everyone. sam stein? >> i don't even know. i don't know where to start. that doesn't make sense. i mean it makes some sense. makes no sense. i can better explain mitt romney's good debate programs. he had the cheesecake factory. >> nothing empowers like carbs and sugar. >> romney was at chipotle the 24 hours before and explains his great performance. >> indeed. >> booked debate and agreed to it not realizing it was 20th anniversary, not happy wife. >> my favorite that performed up on twitter the performance enhancing drugs that romney was huffing from the handkerchief. >> always an excuse for everything. thanks again to sam, howard, joy and ben. i'll see you back here monda
just a few hours before the debate started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when you go to 5,000 feet. >> exactly. >> and you only have a few hours to adjust. >> that's interesting. >> i don't know. >> that just happened. that was al gore on current tv wednesday explaining the president's poor debate performance. what's your best excuse for the president? what do you make of that? quickly, everyone. sam stein? >> i don't even know. i don't know where to...
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romney putting something on the podium at the beginning of the debate romney spokeswoman has said it was just a handkerchief that he was like sneak it out and drop it down there much of the social media world is wondering if the mysterious object is a set of notes maybe even stash a napkin which would mean that romney cheated so what do you think is romney cheater here at the at the end of this video he goes back and he grabs the paper and sticks of his pocket so i'm going to i would if it was me they gave the allies the maps of france a little piece of a little handkerchief for me and treated exactly this year ok so you're not trying but what i want to say is that there is little for the people who the people who actually believe that he was cheating i think it's a tremendous insult to barack obama that you could lose that spectacularly all because he had it a little piece of paper supposedly they did the business with it so much of a handkerchief it could have had notes with it but he also went in was shaking everybody and after that using it it should have been visible. yes hand s
romney putting something on the podium at the beginning of the debate romney spokeswoman has said it was just a handkerchief that he was like sneak it out and drop it down there much of the social media world is wondering if the mysterious object is a set of notes maybe even stash a napkin which would mean that romney cheated so what do you think is romney cheater here at the at the end of this video he goes back and he grabs the paper and sticks of his pocket so i'm going to i would if it was...
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i mean, quite frankly, i'm mystified by the mitt romney we saw at the debate and the mitt romney who is now saying that he was completely wrong about trashing 47% of the country. how is it possible that a man who has been running for president for six years is having these personality conversions all within the span of a few days or a few hours. >> that's a very good question, john. i wish i could answer that. michelle, what is romney actually saying he was wrong about? that he got the number wrong? that it's actually 46% of people that he believes are entitled to health care, food, housing, you name it? what exactly is he saying was wrong? >> well, we don't actually know because he was very smart. he picked a friendly interviewer who is not going to push him too hard on exactly what he was wrong about. was he wrong to say it, wrong to get caught saying it, was he wrong to think it? these are not things that shean hannity and the fox team are going to push him on, but what he is right about is that he can't let that sit out there, and he picked a time when he thought he had a relativ
i mean, quite frankly, i'm mystified by the mitt romney we saw at the debate and the mitt romney who is now saying that he was completely wrong about trashing 47% of the country. how is it possible that a man who has been running for president for six years is having these personality conversions all within the span of a few days or a few hours. >> that's a very good question, john. i wish i could answer that. michelle, what is romney actually saying he was wrong about? that he got the...
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because people got the -- >> reporter: romney then offered his own debate analysis of sorts. >> i got the chance to ask the president questions that people across the country have wanted to ask him, such as, why is it that he pushed obamacare at a time when we had 23 million people out of work? >> reporter: running mate paul ryan also turned attention to the debate. >> last night america got to see the man i know, a leader. >> reporter: this post-debate rally was staged in a reliably red part of virginia. the event was delayed because so many people were still trying to drive in. early in the evening, the nra officially endorsed the romney/ryan ticket passing out orange hats. and trace adkins warmed up the crowd, but it was still the romney debate performance that had voters energized. >> he took the debate by the get-go. this is one of the most vibrant campaign rallies since he started i think. >> a lot of people felt like they didn't really know what he was about, and i think he gave us a real clear picture. >> mitt romney naiks two more stops in virginia, tomorrow and monday. in fi
because people got the -- >> reporter: romney then offered his own debate analysis of sorts. >> i got the chance to ask the president questions that people across the country have wanted to ask him, such as, why is it that he pushed obamacare at a time when we had 23 million people out of work? >> reporter: running mate paul ryan also turned attention to the debate. >> last night america got to see the man i know, a leader. >> reporter: this post-debate rally was...
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did he not watch those debates? has he never seen mitt romney debate? >> i think that is a very good question, piers, because you would think that in talking about the preparation, you would take a look at all of the debates and actually, the one with newt gingrich is the one that i think they needed to take a look at, because that's where he eviscerated the speaker, and he did it by telling the blatant lies that newt gingrich actually talked about the next day. so he should have been prepared for those kinds of attacks. he should not have looked surprised and he should have been much more deft at not just defending his own record and talking about where we have been and what he has done to shore up the middle class and what he will continue to do, but he should have absolutely brought up the 47%, his offshoring, the fact that mitt romney does not want to come clean on his income taxes and i think that would have been a much different debate. >> i can see that crystal is jumping in there. unfortunately, you can't do it just yet. we have to have a commer
did he not watch those debates? has he never seen mitt romney debate? >> i think that is a very good question, piers, because you would think that in talking about the preparation, you would take a look at all of the debates and actually, the one with newt gingrich is the one that i think they needed to take a look at, because that's where he eviscerated the speaker, and he did it by telling the blatant lies that newt gingrich actually talked about the next day. so he should have been...
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romney's own adviser had to shoot it down after the debate. eric burnstrom was pressed about mitt romney keeping pre-existing conditions as part of his plan. he said, we'd like to sew what states do what massachusetts did. in massachusetts we have a ban on pre-existing conditions. in other words, it's not in romney's plan and they're leaving it up to the states. romney was rewarded for his skillful lying at a hero's welcome at a conservative political conference in colorado today. senior obama adviser david axelrod admitted the president can't let romney's lies go unchecked next time around. >> he made a choice last night to answer the questions that were asked and to talk to the american people about what we need to do to move forward and not to get into serial fact-checking with governor romney, which can be an exhausting, never-ending, pursuit. but obviously moving forward, you know, we're going to take a hard look at this. >> no doubt, last night was a moment of disappointment for progressives in this country. but it's not a moment of defe
romney's own adviser had to shoot it down after the debate. eric burnstrom was pressed about mitt romney keeping pre-existing conditions as part of his plan. he said, we'd like to sew what states do what massachusetts did. in massachusetts we have a ban on pre-existing conditions. in other words, it's not in romney's plan and they're leaving it up to the states. romney was rewarded for his skillful lying at a hero's welcome at a conservative political conference in colorado today. senior obama...
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today just a few hours before the debate started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when you go to 5,000 feet and you only have a few hours to adjust, i don't know maybe. >> mitt romney also talking about that comment this morning giving sean hannity his take on the former vice president's debate announcement. >>> would you agree maybe the altitude had an impact on the president last night. that was al gore's theory. >> look, it was a chance for each of us to describe our vision for the country. the president talked about his vision which was a continuation of the policies of the last four years. he wants to have a stimulus and investing for us. he wants to raise taxes as vice president biden blurted out they want to raise taxes by a trillion dollars more like 2 trillion by our calculations. he is laying out the same policies he has been talking about for the last four years. >>> scary story. an outbreak of a rare and deadly form of me think gmeningitis. >> it is scary. the death tole reaching 35. the cdc.gov says that number could go even higher. cases of fungal men
today just a few hours before the debate started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when you go to 5,000 feet and you only have a few hours to adjust, i don't know maybe. >> mitt romney also talking about that comment this morning giving sean hannity his take on the former vice president's debate announcement. >>> would you agree maybe the altitude had an impact on the president last night. that was al gore's theory. >> look, it was a chance for each of us to describe...
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will these new numbers mean lights out for romney's post debate afterglow? new ads kat aare catered to cri inting states. joining me live is jan schakowsky. congresswoman, it's great to have you here. business pioneer jack welch basically calls these numbers into question. had this remark that he tweeted out earlier today saying, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything, can't debate, so change numbers. what do you say to that? even the white house though right now this morning reluctant to spike the football on this. in their statement saying it is critical we continue the policies that are building an economy that works for the middle cla class as we dig our way out of a deep hole. what is your response to those questioning the validity? >> that's really interesting because i happened to see one of those chicago guys last night. i was with david axelrod. i asked him what do you expect about the jobs numbers? he says, i really don't know. we're hoping it will be good. so, you know, it doesn't surprise me that romney supporters are now
will these new numbers mean lights out for romney's post debate afterglow? new ads kat aare catered to cri inting states. joining me live is jan schakowsky. congresswoman, it's great to have you here. business pioneer jack welch basically calls these numbers into question. had this remark that he tweeted out earlier today saying, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything, can't debate, so change numbers. what do you say to that? even the white house though right now this...
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president obama, mitt romney and the debate in denver everyone is talking about. >>> breaking news about american airlines. why dozens of planes in the air tonight are being grounded when they land. >>> out of gas. why some gas stations are shutting down in a place where prices are already over $5 a gallon. >>> is it a hien danger of chemical of plastics and cans are of high importance to mothers and their newborns. >>> and bird's eye view. what we look like to them. "nightly news" begins now. >>> from nbc news world headquarters in new york, this is "nbc nightly news" with brian williams. >>> good evening. they now estimate over 67 million of us watched the debate in denver last night and what people saw was a highly energized, motivated and combative mitt romney sharing the stage with a subdued and lackluster president obama. what they saw was mitt romney on his way over the course of 90 minutes to scoring a clear and consensus victory in what will be the first of three meetings. between these two men. for romney, today felt like a new chapter. here's a look at the crowd waiting for hi
president obama, mitt romney and the debate in denver everyone is talking about. >>> breaking news about american airlines. why dozens of planes in the air tonight are being grounded when they land. >>> out of gas. why some gas stations are shutting down in a place where prices are already over $5 a gallon. >>> is it a hien danger of chemical of plastics and cans are of high importance to mothers and their newborns. >>> and bird's eye view. what we look like...
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maybe that takes the romney debate bump away or not. but he is spending several days in florida not by accident. he has to win here. >> especially since they're not doing as well as they hoped to do in ohio. there's the other debate, and i'm not talking about the vice presidential match-up next week. i am talking about jon stewart versus bill o'reilly saturday night for charity here in d.c. >> people said they're looking forward to the vice presidential debate. if you're looking for a debate with the most fireworks between now and the election, bill o'reilly and jon stewart. i've been watching the jon stewart clips from "the daily show" with stephen colbert warming up in training jon stewart for this debate. you know, in truth my guess is it will be less jokey and more serious than many of us are expecting. jon stewart is often in these settings a serious policy-minded thinker. i think o'reilly will take that approach. like we talked about before the presidential debate, it may be less fireworks than we think but a serious policy discus
maybe that takes the romney debate bump away or not. but he is spending several days in florida not by accident. he has to win here. >> especially since they're not doing as well as they hoped to do in ohio. there's the other debate, and i'm not talking about the vice presidential match-up next week. i am talking about jon stewart versus bill o'reilly saturday night for charity here in d.c. >> people said they're looking forward to the vice presidential debate. if you're looking for...
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>> caller: he definitely let romney walk into that debate. i mean look at the headlines today. it's crazy. >> stephanie: yeah. >> caller: yesterday they were talk about how of these romney supporters were going to jump ship, but now they are doubling down, and they are going to go down with the ship. >> stephanie: right. [ coughing ] >> caller: excuse me. >> stephanie: oh pardon you. please go ahead. >> caller: and another thing think about all of the money that is not going to go into the senate and house races. >> stephanie: yeah and i think he underestimated the muppet love in the country. hi heidi. >> caller: hi. i love you guys. i have listened to you for about eight years. >> stephanie: thank you. >> caller: i was calling because i wanted to say obama -- everything is turning around right now in the economy. and i want him to be in office for he can take the credit for what he has done. >> stephanie: exactly. i'm surprised that mittens hasn't taken credit for the drop in the unemployment rate as well. >> yeah. >> stephanie: do you have it? >> yeah. >> stephanie: a lot of
>> caller: he definitely let romney walk into that debate. i mean look at the headlines today. it's crazy. >> stephanie: yeah. >> caller: yesterday they were talk about how of these romney supporters were going to jump ship, but now they are doubling down, and they are going to go down with the ship. >> stephanie: right. [ coughing ] >> caller: excuse me. >> stephanie: oh pardon you. please go ahead. >> caller: and another thing think about all of the...
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i think mitt romney is a better debater. romney, you know, we saw something that we had not seen in a long time. it occurred to me that this reminded me more of the mitt romney i met in 1994 when he was running for the senate and came by and met with me and was incredibly an impressive and analytical and fact driven and pragmatic. this was that guy, not so much the person who had been pretending to be an ideologue for the past few years. obama seemed to be like a team sitting on a lead. i would not have said smog it, i would have just said somebody who did not seem to be terribly hungry for it. -- i would not say smug, just somebody that was not hungry for it. i did not really big in these examples after, i do not particularly care for them. -- these instant polls, i didn't care for them. when you see who did the best job, obama 25, romney 67. obama did better than expected 21%, worse than expected 61%. romney did 82% better than expected, at 10% said they thought he did worse than they expected. my guess is the 10% or parti
i think mitt romney is a better debater. romney, you know, we saw something that we had not seen in a long time. it occurred to me that this reminded me more of the mitt romney i met in 1994 when he was running for the senate and came by and met with me and was incredibly an impressive and analytical and fact driven and pragmatic. this was that guy, not so much the person who had been pretending to be an ideologue for the past few years. obama seemed to be like a team sitting on a lead. i would...
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i think you will see a bump in the polls for romney. 67% believed that romney won the debate. that is a stunning number. usually, our side thinks our guy one and their side thinks there got one. -- thinks their guy won. it was pretty decisive. >> explain to a group of people -- i doubt there is an undecided voter in this room. what do undecided voters look like? >> the kind of people who tell the waiter to come back at a restaurant because they have not made up their mind. [laughter] when you look at undecided voters, they generally tend to be younger women than anything else. in this case, i am seeing an even division between men and women. they tend to be more independent. they are either somewhat conservative to moderate. only 18% of the undecided voters in the swing states say the country is going in the right direction. 70% say it is on the wrong track. that is much more negative than the country as a whole. that is why i believe romney is poised to pick up some of them. >> anybody who thinks the next debate will be the same as this one, i think they are making a mistake.
i think you will see a bump in the polls for romney. 67% believed that romney won the debate. that is a stunning number. usually, our side thinks our guy one and their side thinks there got one. -- thinks their guy won. it was pretty decisive. >> explain to a group of people -- i doubt there is an undecided voter in this room. what do undecided voters look like? >> the kind of people who tell the waiter to come back at a restaurant because they have not made up their mind....
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according to a cnn poll, 67% of adults thought romney won the debate compared to just 25% who picked the president. 46% of undecided voters in a cbs poll gave the win to romney to just 22% for mr. obama. nearly a third of the undecideds were undecided. romney's positive rating rose above 50% for the first time in this campaign in a reuters poll. the president's ratings stayed unchanged at 56%. romney stayed on the attack even though his positions were to be charitable and flatly untrue. here's some of what he said about his tax plan and the economy. >> romney: i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the deficit. my view is we ought to provide tax relief to people in the middle class but i'm not going to reduce the share of taxes paid by high income people. we have 23 million people out of work. or stop look for work in this country. >> eliot: here's how the obama campaign responded to some of the claims. with an ad released this afternoon that relied on fact checkers. >> mitt romney has not laid out specifics for how he w
according to a cnn poll, 67% of adults thought romney won the debate compared to just 25% who picked the president. 46% of undecided voters in a cbs poll gave the win to romney to just 22% for mr. obama. nearly a third of the undecideds were undecided. romney's positive rating rose above 50% for the first time in this campaign in a reuters poll. the president's ratings stayed unchanged at 56%. romney stayed on the attack even though his positions were to be charitable and flatly untrue. here's...
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so much for that debate and so much for romney attacking big bird. thank you for joining me. >> the ed show is up next. >>> the day after. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews back in washington. let me start tonight with two big questions, "hardball" questions if you will. one, why? why did what happened last night happen? why did a president who has proven himself as a policy expert and world class politician let the other guy take charge? because if he can't answer that question, he may be doomed to defeat in the remaining two debates. second big question, can a victory over the facts of last night's debate, what was true and what was not, turn the tables now? can barack obama win by getting out the word he didn't get out last night? and both are big questions tonight that might just decide this presidential election. i'm joined by governor ed rendell and ron reagan, both msnbc analysts. this is a tough blog by a guy who has been very strong for obama over the years. andrew sullivan of the daily beast. he wrote this last
so much for that debate and so much for romney attacking big bird. thank you for joining me. >> the ed show is up next. >>> the day after. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews back in washington. let me start tonight with two big questions, "hardball" questions if you will. one, why? why did what happened last night happen? why did a president who has proven himself as a policy expert and world class politician let the other...